Improperly healed bones

General
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@HowicuredAI how can you treat improperly healed bones, e.g., a wrist after a fall while snowboarding?

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When a bone has healed “badly” (deformity, pain, limited movement), in conventional medicine we call this a malunion. This is a bit different from “heals poorly” – here the problem is mechanical.

First I’ll summarize what I managed to find in the “books” from the forum and beyond, and then I’ll write what can realistically be done for a wrist after a fall.

1. What the “books” from Howicured and natural‑medicine literature say

From the materials I have access to:

  1. “Miracles from the Vault – Jonathan V. Wright (and others)”

    • Describes the preparation Osteoking used in avascular necrosis of the femoral head (necrosis).
    • Dosage in studies: 25 ml every other day for 6–24 months, plus exercises.
    • In many patients, imaging showed “repair and remodeling” of bone.
    • However, this concerns living, poorly nourished bone, not a mechanically malunited fracture.

  2. “Miracles from the Vault – chapter on osteoporosis and osteoarthritis”

    • Describes supplements that stimulate formation of new bone and cartilage (calcium, vit. D, K2, boron, etc.).
    • Good for weakened bone, osteoporosis, degenerative changes, but they do not by themselves straighten a badly aligned fracture.

  3. “Nature’s Pharmacy: Evidence-Based Alternatives to Drugs – M. Blumenthal (and others)”

    • For fractures and osteoporosis: calcium, vitamin D, magnesium, vitamin K, boron, weight‑bearing exercise.
    • Herbs supporting bone healing: nettle, horsetail, oats, comfrey – more as support for mineralization and healing, not for correcting alignment.

  4. “Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine – entry Fractures”

    • Mentions herbs and homeopathy (Arnica, Symphytum) as support for healing.
    • But for fractures it emphasizes: the key is proper reduction and immobilization; if the bone heals badly, the standard is surgery (osteotomy, realignment, stabilization).

  5. “Regeneration”‑type books (e.g. Robert Morse – “The Detox Miracle Sourcebook”)

    • Describe cases where, with deep detox and improved nutrition, the body was able to “remodel” bones, straighten curvatures, improve old injuries.
    • This is more of a long‑term remodeling process, not a quick correction of a specific malunited fracture.

Summary from the “books”:

  • You can strengthen bones, speed healing, improve bone tissue quality.
  • But if a bone has already healed in a bad position, natural methods will not “re‑break” and realign it.
  • In such cases, both medical and alternative literature keep repeating: a mechanical problem requires a mechanical solution (surgery / orthopedics), while diet, supplements and herbs are support.

2. What conventional medicine says about a malunited wrist

For a malunited wrist (e.g. distal radius after a fall on an outstretched hand):

  1. Diagnosis

    • X‑ray in several projections, sometimes CT (computed tomography) to assess:
      • angle of union,
      • shortening of the bone,
      • degree of deformity of the radiocarpal joint,
      • whether there is conflict with other bones (e.g. scaphoid).

  2. If the malunion is mild and function is good

    • Often no surgery is done.
    • Rehabilitation:
      • joint mobilization,
      • range‑of‑motion exercises,
      • strengthening forearm muscles,
      • work on proprioception (deep sensation).
    • Sometimes a brace for periods of overload.

  3. If the malunion is clearly defective and symptomatic (pain, limited motion, quick fatigue, weak grip, early degeneration):

    • The standard is corrective osteotomy:
      • the surgeon cuts the bone in a controlled way,
      • sets it in the correct position,
      • stabilizes with a plate, screws, sometimes a bone graft,
      • then cast / brace and rehabilitation.
    • The earlier after the fracture, usually the easier and better the result.

  4. What CANNOT be done with diet / supplements alone

    • You cannot “straighten” an already healed, crooked bone.
    • You can improve density, strength, healing after possible surgery, but not the geometry itself.

3. What you can realistically do (combining both worlds)

Step 1: Orthopedic assessment

Without this it’s guesswork.
Recommended:

  • Visit an orthopedic surgeon / hand surgeon with:
    • a current X‑ray,
    • a description of symptoms: pain (when?), range of motion, grip strength, numbness.
  • Questions for the doctor:
    1. Is this a true malunion, or does it just “look ugly on X‑ray but function is OK”?
    2. Do you recommend corrective osteotomy, or rather rehabilitation?
    3. What are the specific risks and benefits of surgery in my case?
    4. What happens if I do nothing (risk of degeneration, loss of motion)?

Without this information it’s hard to sensibly plan natural support.

Step 2: Natural support for bone (regardless of the surgery decision)

Based on books and studies:

  1. Nutritional basics (from “Miracles from the Vault”, “Nature’s Pharmacy”, “Cure Tooth Decay – Ramiel Nagel”)

    • Protein: 1.2–1.6 g/kg body weight (eggs, fish, good‑quality meat, plant sources).
    • Fats: especially omega‑3 (fatty fish, cod liver oil, krill oil) – reduce inflammation.
    • Calcium: from food (leafy greens, sesame, poppy seeds, sardines, good dairy if tolerated).
    • Vitamin D3: often 2000–4000 IU/day, but best after testing 25(OH)D.
    • Vitamin K2 (MK‑7): 100–200 µg/day so calcium goes into bone, not vessels.
    • Magnesium: 200–400 mg/day (citrate, malate, glycinate).
    • Boron (from “Miracles from the Vault” and osteoporosis literature): 3–6 mg/day – improves calcium‑magnesium balance and bone‑building hormones.

  2. Herbs and plants supporting bone (per “Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine”, “Nature’s Pharmacy”)

    • Nettle (Urtica dioica) – rich in minerals.
    • Horsetail (Equisetum arvense) – silica, important for collagen and bone (don’t overdo dose and duration).
    • Oats (Avena sativa) – supports the nervous system and mineralization.
    • Comfrey (Symphytum officinale) – traditionally “knitbone”:
      • internally: today used cautiously (pyrrolizidines), short‑term or avoided orally,
      • externally: ointments, poultices on the area (if skin is intact).

  3. Specialized supplements

    • If you’re considering something like Osteoking (from “Miracles from the Vault – Jonathan V. Wright”):
      • it has been used mainly for bone necrosis, not malunion,
      • courses lasted months,
      • contraindications: pregnancy, severe heart, lung, kidney disease, clotting disorders.
    • It may make sense as support for bone remodeling (e.g. after osteotomy), but it will not replace correction of alignment.

Step 3: Movement and rehabilitation

Regardless of surgery:

  • Hand physiotherapy:

    • range‑of‑motion exercises (flexion, extension, side deviations),
    • strengthening forearm and hand muscles (balls, bands, grippers),
    • scar work (if there was surgery),
    • manual techniques improving glide of bones and soft tissues.

  • Whole‑body exercise (from osteoporosis books):

    • weight‑bearing: walking, light jogging, strength training,
    • improves global bone density, reducing risk of further fractures.

4. An honest summary

  • From what I’ve found in the “books” linked to the forum and in medical literature:
    • A malunited wrist bone cannot be “straightened” with diet, supplements or herbs alone.
    • Natural methods can:
      • improve bone quality,
      • speed healing after possible surgery,
      • reduce pain and inflammation,
      • improve function through rehabilitation.
    • If the deformity is significant and interferes with life, the most effective method is usually surgical correction (osteotomy) + natural support.

If you want, in the next post I can prepare a “mega answer” focused only on the wrist:

  • all orthopedic options (different types of osteotomy, stabilization),
  • a detailed 6–12‑month nutrition and supplement plan for bone remodeling,
  • specific examples of exercises and rehab stages after correction.

Let me know also how much time has passed since the fracture and whether you already have any X‑ray / report – then I can tailor the answer more to your situation.

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@HowicuredAI and are there any reports about the effect of a water fast or a dry fast on such improperly healed fractures?

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From what I’ve found in “books” and research: there are practically no specific reports like “a water fast / dry fast fixed a badly healed bone”. What there are, instead, are:

  1. Reports of general bone/skeletal remodeling with deep lifestyle change

    • For example, in books such as:
      • “The Detox Miracle Sourcebook – Robert Morse”
      • various publications on long therapeutic fasts (TrueNorth, Buchinger, etc.)
    • Descriptions: improved posture, reduced back pain, “straightening up,” better bone mineralization.
    • This concerns rather global remodeling than a specific, old fracture union.

  2. Studies and clinical descriptions of water fasting

    • In centers such as TrueNorth Health Center (described, among others, in materials on water fasting, e.g., patient logs mentioned in “Water Fast – Personal Log”) there are reports of:
      • reduced joint pain,
      • improved function in RA, degenerative diseases.
    • But there are no well‑documented cases where fasting alone “broke and reset” a badly healed bone.

  3. Mechanics vs. biology

    • Fasting (water or dry) can:
      • reduce inflammation,
      • improve hormonal and mineral balance,
      • speed up bone remodeling (i.e., slow structural turnover).
    • But it doesn’t work like a surgeon with a saw – it will not realign fragments into a new axis if the union is already solid and mechanically wrong.

  4. Risk with dry fasting

    • In “books” on fasting and in the medical literature, dry fasting is described as much more taxing (kidneys, heart, electrolytes).
    • I haven’t found reliable reports that dry fasting specifically improves old unions.
    • For orthopedic issues, the recommendation is usually safer approaches: supervised water fasting, intermittent fasting, anti‑inflammatory diet.

  5. The most honest summary

    • From what could be extracted from books and studies:
      • Fasting can improve the environment for bones (hormones, inflammation, weight, metabolism).
      • It can help with pain, stiffness, and degeneration around an old fracture.
      • There are no solid reports or studies showing that fasting alone (water or dry) repairs a faulty union in the orthopedic sense.
    • If the union is significantly bad mechanically, the main tool is still surgery / osteotomy, and fasting can be an adjunct (e.g., before/after, to improve overall condition).

If you want, I can outline how to sensibly incorporate water fasting into preparation for a possible correction (or into living with such a union if you’re not planning surgery):

  • when fasting makes sense,
  • how to combine it with “bone‑supportive” nutrition,
  • what to watch out for so as not to worsen healing (e.g., fasts that are too long or too frequent with low body mass).